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Nelson
Nelson
04 Feb 2012 11:22

This is always an interesting read in the two local rags. I always look out for anyone from Dawlish, and sadly someone from the town is listed again this week. I think I'll make this a weekly update on here....................................................................................................................................................................................... Thomas Lee DAVIES, Kingsdown Crescent, Dawlish. Age 19. Guilty of damaging cars in Teignmouth and Dawlish on 27th December 2011. 150 hours unpaid work, £398 compensation, £85 costs.

jools88
jools88
08 Feb 2012 22:16

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Nelson
Nelson
11 Feb 2012 11:54

No Dawlishians in court in the latest reports; however the person from the Midlands who allegedly tried to defraud those elderly persons in Dawlish and Starcross has pleaded 'not guilty'.

Nelson
Nelson
23 Feb 2012 12:57

No update last week, as the only court appearance was by someone from the town who entered a Not Guilty plea. This weeks update is.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................###### ### #####, Newlands, Dawlish. Age: ##. On 06/10/2011 at Newton Abbot drove a motor vehicle, on a road, namely Exeter Road, while using a hand-held mobile telephone. Plea: Guilty. No disqualification. Fined £35. victim surcharge of £15. Costs of £30. Licence or counterpart endorsed with three points.

jools88
jools88
23 Feb 2012 14:00

Nelson ,You must have a lot of spare time on your hands.

Nelson
Nelson
01 Mar 2012 15:54

Paul HORNER, Priory Gardens, Dawlish. Age: 50. On 18/11/2011 at Dawlish stole men’s toiletries to the value of £18 belonging to Boots. Plea: Guilty. Discharged conditionally for six months. Compensation of £18.

xxx
xxx
02 Mar 2012 06:49

Nelson, this is a nasty and unnecessary thread!

Nelson
Nelson
02 Mar 2012 06:59

Its already in the public domain!!!! Just buy either local newspaper to see the full listing. Why is it nasty, seriously? Its a public interest thread surely? I'm a firm believer in 'do the crime, serve the time'!!!

J.Warrener
J.Warrener
02 Mar 2012 11:03

Well done Nelson . If you travel around the country you will see lists like these in all the papers . Nothing at all Nasty about what you are doing. They are all guilty so whats the problem Dawlish Blue, its time this sort of scum were named and shamed , they have been bringing our town down for too long. I suppose you would rather talk to them and listen to how they had such a bad upbringing and say there there , life has been so tough.

Get them all on community service cleaning up our town and the beaches.

Nelson
Nelson
02 Mar 2012 19:32

Thank you J.Warrener. Who's really being nasty? The scumbag who burgled my home two years ago, the moron who damaged my car ( and others on the road I lived on) in February last year, or me for warning locals about convicts in our midst? One reason I moved here last autumn was to get away from tax dodging criminal braindeads. I see nothing wrong with naming and shaming. I can only presume DawlishBlue has never been a victim of crime......

bryony
bryony
02 Mar 2012 20:10

Why not name and shame people? If you've nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about with this thread, and if it makes Nelson feel better after what has happened to him, then what is the problem with that.

If it makes just one person think twice about committing "petty" crime, then that can only be a good thing.

Nelson
Nelson
02 Mar 2012 20:17

Thank you Bryony.

Don Pearson
Don Pearson
02 Mar 2012 22:54

I am content to let those who have never used a mobile phone whilst driving and never broken the speed limit cast the first stone (or first cry, "Scum.")

Nelson
Nelson
03 Mar 2012 06:48

But I've never burgled a house or wilfully damaged another persons hard-earned property. These are people, Don, who have pleaded "Guilty" to their crimes. Do the crime, serve the time.

Don Pearson
Don Pearson
03 Mar 2012 16:39

@Nelson

You, J Warrener and bryony will comment according to your own consciences and I to mine,

Don

hedgehog69
hedgehog69
04 Mar 2012 18:24

excuse me but im the wife of the said gentleman above and HE IS NOT A LOW LIFE OR SCUM,he works very hard for his family and does this all with numerous steel plates in his and screws holding the base of his spine together,but he dosnt sit at home on his ass like he could but works as m uch as his back will allow him,and for your information you have no idea on what his crime was or the situation so please unless your know the full story wouldnt it be best not to say nothing yes i agree name and shame the ones who have done wrong but ib this case you have no idea so please dont call my husband scum also he was in the forces and served for your country if that is scum then god help us

so j warrner please ur post was very upsetting to me

roberta
roberta
04 Mar 2012 18:32

@ hedgehog Im sorry but which gentleman are you meaning as there are 3

hedgehog69
hedgehog69
04 Mar 2012 19:03

##### #####

roberta
roberta
04 Mar 2012 19:08

Nice gentleman ##### been in his taxi a few times, so polite and helpful, Im sure he had a good reason, I see drivers all the time on their mobiles most probably unlucky to be caught. Not exactly the crime of the century is it, cant understand the comments above, Don is right.

I think there is no need to have this thread wecan buy a paper if we want to waste time looking for this sort of thing, thats what the Sun is for !!!!!!!!!!!! scandal

hedgehog69
hedgehog69
04 Mar 2012 19:22

ty roberta there was all that know him know he isnt scum that more my point that not all crimes are made by scum thats what made my blood boil,

jools88
jools88
04 Mar 2012 19:47

We need to knock this on the head . if we want to know this info we can read the paper .

People make mistakes all the time. let it lie.

neilh
neilh
04 Mar 2012 21:54

Absolutely right. Drop this discussion thread - it serves no purpose whatsoever.

xxx
xxx
05 Mar 2012 07:16

Nelson: Court reports are postings of fact, they are not discussion items.

Your aim in posting them is to "name and shame", and not to promote discussion. This is a discussion forum and as such is not an appropriate place for such postings. If you want to publicise court decisions on the Internet, there are more appropriate ways to do it, for example you could start a Blog, Facebook page, Squidoo thread, Twitter account, or web page. Create your own web presence for the subject, and don't abuse this discussion forum.

I would like to see this whole thread removed.

Nelson
Nelson
05 Mar 2012 07:26

Well, it certainly has started a discussion!!! Should I re-paste from the newspaper website onto the News section of this website then? Or should we have a discussion about Censorship on the Net?? By the way, there is no such thing as "petty" crime. I'd hate to be having a discussion about your young daughter or grand daughter that got ran over by a car driver who was too lazy or too tight to use a hands free kit.

neilh
neilh
05 Mar 2012 10:25

@Nelson - this isn't about censorship on the net at all but appears to be about vindictiveness. i realsie you are bitter about some things which have happened to you in the past but you need to move on. i am neither religious nor christian but there are some interesting lessons in morality in the bible which people can learn from. the one i'm thinking of is "let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone". the associated story (john 8, 1:11) is a really moving account of such attitudes. you might like to read it.

Don Pearson
Don Pearson
05 Mar 2012 12:23

@neilh

It is interesting that the two people referring to the bible should be, in one case, "neither religious nor christian," and in the other, an atheist.

Nelson
Nelson
05 Mar 2012 13:00

Whilst we talking about Fairy Tales, how about Exodus 21:23, 24?

roberta
roberta
05 Mar 2012 13:25

If you must impart this info why not use the news thread

neilh
neilh
05 Mar 2012 13:26

@Don. Hi Don. Yes it is interesting!! And I'm not usually given to quoting the bible (or more accurately the NT part). It just seemed an appropriate analogy in this thread. The bible as a book is many things amongst which it is a collection of thoughts and philosophy about ethics and morality. There is a view that Jesus was the original marxist - he certainly went against much of the dogma of his day. If you take it as a guidance of morality and what could be ethical behaviour then it has validity in parts. Equally you might read Das Kapital and glean from that a philosophy about social justice and injustice - and that may appropriate in another thread, or equally in a more modern vein "The Gift Relationship" by Titmuss.

Anyway, the point is that vindictiveness causes pain and I really felt the hurt expressed by Hedgehog69 caused by the vindictiveness of this thread. I hope that the authors of that vindictiveness feel the shame of that themselves and now stop.

Nelson
Nelson
05 Mar 2012 15:50

Not as vindictive as continuing to use a mobile phone whilst driving, despite the well-documented high number of innocent people that are killed by these selfish drivers!!! I wouldn't go as far as to call this particular criminal "scum", more "lucky" that no one got injured or worse dspite his actions. However, people who rob, assault or cause criminal damage are definitely worthy of the s word.

roberta
roberta
05 Mar 2012 16:12

people are asking you not to continue this thread but you persist in keeping it going, can you not just let it go

Lynne
Lynne
05 Mar 2012 16:17

@neilh

OMG! You naughty Neil you! You mentioned the M word!

(and if you're not careful you'll be getting responses to that posting of yours like I've had to some of my postings on other threads. )

Go and sit on the naughty step and recant (or should that be re- Kant?) :))

Nelson
Nelson
05 Mar 2012 16:40

@roberta. we're having a discussion. thanks for your contribution.

roberta
roberta
05 Mar 2012 16:53

Oh Im so sorry for the intrusion

roberta
roberta
05 Mar 2012 16:58

I thought this was dawlish.com not Nelsons Column

Lynne
Lynne
05 Mar 2012 17:28

Nelson's Column eh? - tee hee! very witty.

Don Pearson
Don Pearson
05 Mar 2012 17:35

@neilh, lynne

"Do to others as you would have others do to you in the same circumstances," (Peter Kropotkin) is a pretty good guiding principle. I had better avoid the A word or things could be blown up out of all proportion.

Don

Lynne
Lynne
05 Mar 2012 18:46

A...........................bsolutely!

neilh
neilh
05 Mar 2012 19:00

@Don Yes, agree with that completely. I don't recognise the Kropotkin quote but I think he's nicked it!! At the risk of atheistic enagelising yet again, try Luke 6:31 - "Do to others as you would have them do to you".

@Lynne. recant? never

@roberta. good one

Nelson
Nelson
05 Mar 2012 20:16

Nice one Roberta! Welcome to the forum. ;-)

Don Pearson
Don Pearson
05 Mar 2012 22:28

Hey ho, while we're in Humerous mode. My friend Kant find her keys and is Locked out. I would Russell up some dinner but my Hobbes aren't working - I'll have to Ockham. I think all this philosophy crap is just designed to Confucius.

neilh
neilh
05 Mar 2012 23:10

@Don - it's certainly a Nietzche humour and if you can't make dinner get a takeaway but make sure it's during the Schopenhauer.

Lynne
Lynne
06 Mar 2012 07:38

Are people who Chomsky their food right Burkes do you think?

Don Pearson
Don Pearson
06 Mar 2012 09:35

Too tired to think therefore I am off to buy some birth Descartes. (You're a Burke, Don - Ed.)

Don Pearson
Don Pearson
06 Mar 2012 09:36

@Lynne

sorry, you got it in while I was composing.

neilh
neilh
06 Mar 2012 10:09

All grist to the Mill

Don Pearson
Don Pearson
06 Mar 2012 10:20

Can't dilly dally, I have neighbours to spy on.

Lynne
Lynne
06 Mar 2012 10:33

Are they social housing tenants and are you checking to see how many bedrooms they have/need?

Don Pearson
Don Pearson
06 Mar 2012 10:58

No. My friends include benefit scroungers, alcoholics and heroin addicts. I am after the whited sepulchres.

hedgehog69
hedgehog69
06 Mar 2012 17:32

nelson and the rest do you really knows the facts of any of these people i know for a fact you dont know my husband circumstances i resent him being tied as a scumbag or a driver who flaunts the law,and i take it personal when he is said to be this if you know the facts to it maybe you would understand more,like i said he isnt a scum bag or a dole dozzer or living on benfits,he made a mistake paid for it and under the circumstances i think you would of done the same and like i said before this is people lives your broadcasting on here,and i dont think it very nice to do this,

hedgehog69
hedgehog69
06 Mar 2012 17:35

nelson you know nothing about what went on so please dont say things about it if you dont know this is upsetting me very much now please can this post be removed

jools88
jools88
06 Mar 2012 17:46

hedgehog69 you are wasting yor time with nelson, he just upsets people all the time and seems to get away with it. just watch what sort of reply i get. all the best .

Brazilnut
Brazilnut
06 Mar 2012 18:23

I agree, Webmaster can you remove this thread please or lock it so no more postings can be made. Court listings will be out again Thursday and Im sure Nelson will be unable to help himself

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