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leatash
leatash
23 Oct 2013 11:19
You may have heard that The English Defence League are planning a national demonstration through Exeter on 16th November.
 
In response many local people and organisations have formed an umbrella group "Exeter Together" to hold a peaceful celebration of diversity on the same day, and to show that the EDL are not wanted in our city.
 
HOW YOU CAN HELP
 
1. The Express and Echo have posted online the story about the launch of Exeter Together. The EDL have posted a number of comments on the online story - please go to the story and rate the comments and please comment online if you feel able. See
 
2. If you haven't signed the statement form Exeter Together please go to the website www.exetertogether.wordpress.com and fill in the online form.

 

roberta
roberta
23 Oct 2013 14:23

I dont support the EDL or BNP but they have some valid points that I do agree with, its a pity we cant pick the good bits from every political party and then maybe we might have a gov to control this Country that supports the British Born People

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FredBassett
FredBassett
23 Oct 2013 15:25

Not taking sides but the opening statement from "Exeter Together" is that they do not wish to be confrontational. So why organize a gathering on the same day as the pre planned march by the " EDL".

Confrontational is exacltly what they seem to be.

Agree with roberta that both the EDL and BNP have some very valid points to make, but they are not one and the same organization.

Whillst the views of the  EDL can appear to be extreme at times, the basic principles of strickter control on imigration and less government support for Islamic practises and principles must surely be applied or this country is not going to be a safe place for future generations.

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DJ
DJ
23 Oct 2013 18:24

It would be far better for people to ignore the EDL parade, that way they get the least publicity possible.  Having another parade on the same day is just an excuse to cause more problems.  

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Taylorjack913
Taylorjack913
23 Oct 2013 21:50

 THE EDL PROTESTS ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE THAT BLACK MAN THAT KILLED LEE RIGBY ON OUR OWN STREET THERE A PEACEFUL PROTEST AGAINST TEEROSOITS!!!

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jools88
jools88
23 Oct 2013 22:28

REMOVE THIS PERSON NOW . HE IS A PRICK.

jools88
jools88
23 Oct 2013 22:29

& YOU STILL CAN NOT SPELL . laugh

neilh
neilh
23 Oct 2013 23:54

@Roberta & Fredbassett  What are the good or valid points of the EDL and BNP?

FredBassett
FredBassett
24 Oct 2013 09:15

@neilh

Look around the news headlines and consider the state the country is in at the minute, then read the manifesto of the BNP (forget the EDL for now). Work out for yourself if they have any valid points or not. Its about your own views and feelings, everyone to their own opinion on this Im afraid.

 

 

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Paul
Paul
24 Oct 2013 09:52

Here is a valid point by the BNP - http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/it-multiculturalism-which-has-failed.

Multiculturalism has caused endless problems.

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OLD FART
OLD FART
24 Oct 2013 13:29

Many local people, how many is that ? I thought people in this country were lawfully allowed to demonstrate their views in public in a peaceful manner. Oh, I forgot it depends what the subject is, whether it is legal or not. Let's see peoples attitude to this particular subject in another 30 years time. 

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Don Pearson
Don Pearson
24 Oct 2013 15:06

@Taylorjack913

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/http://www.operations.mod.uk/telic/ophons05/beharry.htm

 

@OLD FART

If the right of the EDF to demonstrate is acceptable, how can one contest the right to demonstrate of those who disagree with them?

@FredBassett

I agree with your response to neilh. We disagree.

 

Here is a little piece of Hint Fiction (up to 25 words) that I wrote a couple of years ago.

On Remembrance Day I met an old Paki in uniform, knocked him down and tore a medal from his jacket. It reads, "For Valour."

DJ
DJ
24 Oct 2013 19:05

I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

Voltaire

I think this quote sums up exactly how I feel about the EDF marching.  It is part of the rights and freedoms of being a citizen of Great Britain.

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neilh
neilh
24 Oct 2013 20:07

@FredBassett.  Agreed everyone has their own view on what is valid or not.  I was just trying to find out what you thought were valid points of the BNP and EDL because you made the statement without substantiating it with some examples.  Just saying that they have valid points doesn't get us very far. indecision

neilh
neilh
24 Oct 2013 20:10
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neilh
neilh
24 Oct 2013 20:14
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jools88
jools88
24 Oct 2013 22:23
Paul
Paul
28 Oct 2013 12:26

What is this march about?

Taylorjack913
Taylorjack913
28 Oct 2013 19:36

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Judith Chalmers
Judith Chalmers
28 Oct 2013 20:25

There's no need for that foul language. Please tone it down or turn it off. 

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Taylorjack913
Taylorjack913
28 Oct 2013 21:25

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Don Pearson
Don Pearson
28 Oct 2013 23:24

@Taylorjack

This is a discussion forum. Abuse does not help you to get your ideas across,

Don

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stephen15
stephen15
29 Oct 2013 00:56

@Don Pearson. well said don. this is a discussion forum. people who post should not use abuse.   

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Paul
Paul
29 Oct 2013 09:16

OK, well let's get back to the discussion.

What are the EDL marching about?

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Phoenix
Phoenix
02 Nov 2013 01:38

Good question, try the following link:

Why are the English Defence League going to Exeter?

 

To conclude: "They are mobilising their forces from across the UK to demonstrate against the threat from Islam in a city where there are hardly any Muslims, against a local outbreak of FGM for which there is no evidence, and against an academic research centre that no longer exists."

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