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Paul
Paul
30 Sep 2014 11:05

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2774257/George-s-great-welfare-squeeze-Tories-freeze-benefits-10million-families-new-austerity-drive.html

Not increasing welfare seems fair to me.

Just got my payslip today, far too much tax taken out of workers pay.

Too much tax is unfair

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Lynne
Lynne
30 Sep 2014 11:22

And I'm sure many would agree that the Welfare Bill could do with being reduced. So howsabout people being paid a decent wage for starters. Would that help to reduce the amount of working tax credit/child tax credit being paid out do you think?

And then there's the cost of housing. Lower rents = lower housing benefit bill perhaps?  

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wondering
wondering
30 Sep 2014 12:06

Well if everyone is highly taxed you dont have the money to spend do you.

Never will understand the idea of Labour ...Anyone that studies, does well... 'ah now we will tax them big time and make them wish they had not bothered!!! '

Labour say they will guarantee a job but dont support anyone who wants or has a business and its them that employs people.

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Lynne
Lynne
30 Sep 2014 12:17

So......tax cuts for the rich but welfare cuts for the poor (that includes the working poor by the way). 

All in it together are we?

 

 

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Paul
Paul
30 Sep 2014 14:47

I'm not quite understanding your point. I would like a huge pay rise and tax cuts.

If tax cuts come from welfare then that's not my problem. As always I'm not talking about people who genuinely need help, just the career doleys.

Lynne
Lynne
30 Sep 2014 15:49

So people who are so poorly paid that they qualify for tax credits don't genuinely need help? Really? Is that what you are saying?

I wonder how much the need for tax credit supplements would be diminished if all the poorly paid were paid the living wage?

 

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Paul
Paul
30 Sep 2014 16:51

No I'm not saying that. If you need help then fine.

I'm saying there are too many people that choose not to work at all (obviously one is too many) and our taxes are very high.

I like paying tax for schools, hospitals, police, mod, etc, but just hate seeing lazy gits not bothering to work and getting handouts.

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Lynne
Lynne
30 Sep 2014 17:33

Don't forget there are other forms of taxation as well as income tax. Those who don't earn or who earn but who do not earn enough to pay income tax - they are still tax payers. 20% VAT for example. 

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Andysport
Andysport
30 Sep 2014 20:06

Most of you know what I think, you don't get much for nothing.

 

Taxes in general should be higher

wondering
wondering
30 Sep 2014 20:34

How high would you put VAT then?

Andysport
Andysport
01 Oct 2014 19:53

probably not increase the 20% but maybe bring some of the 0% and 5% products upto the 20% threshold.

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Paul
Paul
02 Oct 2014 14:02

Low taxes, low walfare costs as people pay for things themselves and what happens the economy thrives. Simple! smiley

Dorian
Dorian
02 Oct 2014 15:32

I wholeheartedly support the welfare state but was taken by surprise recently when a friend of a friend got divorced.  She gets £2000 per month spousal maintenance (tax free) from her ex.  She's a qualified teacher but chooses to work the minimum hours as a Teaching Assistant in order to qualify for Tax Credits and for that she gets £1000 per month tax free because, guess what, maintenance payments are disregarded when it comes to calculating tax credits.  So £3000 in her bank account before she even gets out of bed. Her ex also pays Child Maintenance and she claims Child Benefit for their three teenage children  who spend half their time with their father.   It would seem tax credits are not just for the poor.

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ken
ken
02 Oct 2014 17:56

And thats why the country needs welfare reform.

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