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12 May 2016 16:44

Punters hoping to be dropped off at the Powderham gig will be in for a shock because organisers have banned cars from stopping anywhere near the castle venue.

It means they will have to dip into their pockets and pull out £27 to park in the Earl’s grounds or find £11 for a park and ride service – which will be operating from Dawlish Leisure Centre, Exeter Racecourse and Matford Park and Ride Car Park

 

Read more...http://www.middevonadvertiser.co.uk/article.cfm?id=103387&headline=Hidden%20costs%20for%20free%20Powderham%20Castle%20gig%20emerge&sectionIs=news&searchyear=2016

Purrrrrfect
Purrrrrfect
12 May 2016 17:10

So because Powderham don't want the headache of organising the parking on their land, which they normally do, The local community that forked out for it has to endure the inconvience instead, If that's not a Foot You to the local people I don't know what would be.

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Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
12 May 2016 21:18

A letter has been sent by TDC to Kenton and Starcross residents describing in great detail the road plans, transport arrangements and other pertinent information for the weekend. There will also be a community meeting in Kenton on 18 May, being held by reps of the BBC, Powderham and transport authorities. 

flo
flo
12 May 2016 22:06

There's a ferry service from Exmouth which I thinks a great idea.  Nearly fully booked though.

Farty Bickers
Farty Bickers
13 May 2016 13:01

Powderham is presumably making a fair amount of money from this event. It seems only just that they should incurr some of the inconvience of mass volumes of vehicles by opening up their fields for parking. They seem to have had no issues with this in the past!

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FredBassett
FredBassett
13 May 2016 16:14

As a perfectly legal and car tax paying member of the public I would just like to know who is going to stop me driving along the A379 into Kenton to drop off my kids and pick them up later. As far as Im aware the Powderham estate or the BBC do not own the road and unless there is urgent need then niether TDC or DCC have the right to close or obstruct the road, as this is a private event on private ground. 

If Powderham or the council dont wish to provide adequete parking then they should be prepared to finance suitable free transport to and from the event. If not then the event should be re-located to a more suitable venue 

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Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
13 May 2016 16:18

Who told you that the A379 is going to be closed? 

leatash
leatash
13 May 2016 16:29

With other events Powderham are the orgasnisers and sell tickets that include parking i oresume as it is a free event they are charging for parking and have a agreement with TDC to close there car parks that they own to force those attending to park on there fields. Fred i presume you can drop your kids off and pick them up later as the A379 is open and there are no road closure notices in the pipeline.

FredBassett
FredBassett
13 May 2016 16:37

I didnt say it was going to be closed, but read the headline stating that we wont be able to drop off and pick up. So I repeat the question with the road open who is going to stop me dropping off and picking up when I have every right to do so.

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ZIGGY
ZIGGY
14 May 2016 08:24

Extra trains will be laid on from Starcross for Radio 1's Big Weekend at Powderham Castle

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leatash
leatash
14 May 2016 13:09

Fred it depends if the Police are in charge it is a arrestable offence not to follow directions from a Police Officer but if civilians are in charge off directing traffic theres nothing they can do to stop you dropping off your children.  There always have been Police Officers directing traffic at these events but it may be that the BBC or Powderham are not willing to pay the associated cost and will have civillians directing traffic.  I will add that just because you have a up to date VEL this gives you no right in law to stop or park were you want to it only gives you the right to drive on the highway and nothing else Vehicle Excise Licence is what it says its a Excise Licence allowing your vehicle to use the public highway.

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Gary Taylor
Gary Taylor
16 May 2016 15:24

ROAD TRAFFIC REGULATION ACT 1984 SECTION 14

THE COUNTY OF DEVON (TEMPORARY RESTRICTION) (BBC RADIO 1 BIG WEEKEND, EXMINSTER, KENTON, STARCROSS & DAWLISH) NOTICE 2016

TEMPORARY ONE WAY, PROHIBITION OF THROUGH TRAFFIC AND STOPPING, DEVON COUNTY COUNCIL hereby give NOTICE that: From SATURDAY 28 MAY 2016 for a maximum of 21 days Until MONDAY 30 MAY 2016 (both dates inclusive)

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Between the hours of 00:01on Saturday 28 May and 01:00 on Monday 30 May No person shall cause or permit any vehicle to wait, load, unload or stop at any time on any day on any of the sections of Affected Roads as specified below Roads affected - A379, KENTON, POWDERHAM, STARCROSS & DAWLISH - A379 FROM SWANS NEST ROUNDABOUT TO COCKWOOD HARBOUR, NEW ROAD FROM THE COURTNEY ARMS TO MAMHEAD ROAD JUNCTION, STARCROSS & WARREN ROAD TO SANDY LANE, DAWLISH No person shall cause or permit any vehicle to proceed on the sections of Affected Roads except for access to land or premises on or adjacent to those length of roads. Roads affected – STATION ROAD, EXMINSTER FROM THE SWANS NEST INN FOR ITS ENTIRE LENGTH IN AN EASTERLY DIRECTION

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Between the hours of 00:01 on Saturday 28 May and 06:00 on Monday 30 May No person shall cause or permit any vehicle to proceed on the sections of Affected Roads except for cycles at all times, buses & permit holders travelling in a South East direction between the hours of 07:00 – 18:30 & buses & permit holders travelling in a Northerly direction between the hours of 18:30 – 01:00 Roads affected – CHURCH ROAD FROM ITS JUNCTION WITH RED LODGE TO ITS JUNCTION WITH A379 SOUTH TOWN, STARCROSS

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Between the hours of 18:00 on Saturday 28 May to 01:00 on Sunday 29 May and 18:00 on Sunday 29 May to 01:00 on Monday 30 May No person shall cause or permit any vehicle to proceed in an Easterly direction on the sections of Affected Roads Road affected – C803 ROAD FROM IVY COTTAGE CROSS TO COLLEYWELL BOTTOM This temporary restriction is considered necessary to enable - BBC RADIO 1 BIG WEEKEND For additional information contact: EXETER CITY COUNCIL Telephone: 01392 265205 Dated: SATURDAY 28 MAY 2016 David Whitton Head of Highways, Capital Development and Waste Devon Highways Devon County Council Lucombe House County Hall Exeter EX2 4QD Ref: TTRO1614786

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roberta
roberta
16 May 2016 18:32

Hi Gary have you thought about putting this on Eyes of Dawlish

Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
16 May 2016 21:53

Thanks for sharing that Gary. 

DJ
DJ
16 May 2016 23:09

If you can't stop on the main road, what's to stop you driving down a side street and stopping there to pick up or drop off?  You'd have to liaise by phone to make it a quick thing I expect but surely that would be possible, even if it meant picking up somewhere in Starcross.  Little bit of a walk wouldn't hurt!  

Lynne
Lynne
17 May 2016 06:31

A similar thought went through my mind but along the lines of if those who live along the road in Starcross/Kenton have private drives/off road parking what's to stop them allowing cars to pick up and drop off on their private property?

Might appeal to those with an entrepreneurial eye (if they wanted to charge) or those who wouldn't charge but would just do it

as an 'up yours' gesture to the authorities.

Lynne
Lynne
17 May 2016 08:29

@Morty Vicker re your post dated 12.5.16 21:18

Any chance you could post the text of that letter on here or post a link that would take us to the text?

And should anyone go to that meeting tomorrow (18th) in Kenton about all of this a report back on here would, I am sure, be of great interest to many.  

 

Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
17 May 2016 11:46

LN, I don't have a copy, but a friend in Kenton does. I'll see if they've still got it. 

ZIGGY
ZIGGY
17 May 2016 15:29
Lynne
Lynne
17 May 2016 15:45

and I wonder how much the food and drink that can only to be bought on site will cost?

Still, it's a 'free' concert so ought not to grumble.

 

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ZIGGY
ZIGGY
17 May 2016 16:53

Countdown begins to Radio 1 Big Weekend - 16.05.2016

 

Ticket-holders for Radio 1's Big Weekend at Powderham Castle near Exeter have just six days left from today (Monday May 16) to book their transport in advance of the event.

 

Read more...https://www.teignbridge.gov.uk/article/22235/Countdown-begins-to-Radio-1-Big-Weekend---16052016

Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
17 May 2016 20:56

LN. I don't how much the food and drink will cost. I'm not sure why that concerns you as you're not going, however what I do know is that plenty of local food outlets will be there. Making money for both themselves and for their staff. I'll let you know afterwards how their prices at OBW compare to their normal prices. 

Lynne
Lynne
17 May 2016 21:05

MV - It concerns me because I know people who are going. And even if I didn't (know people who are going) it would still concern me.

Will you be there then? 

    

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Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
17 May 2016 22:14

LN, I'm sure that they appreciate your concern.

But, out of interest, why would it have concerned you had you not known anyone going?

 

Anyway, as I've written on here before (and hence me posting on this topic manys a time), I'm going to be there and I'm going to enjoy every second of it!

Life is for living, not for moaning. 

burneside
burneside
17 May 2016 22:27

LOL!

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Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
17 May 2016 22:35

B. No, I mean it...

Lynne
Lynne
18 May 2016 06:33

@MV - I am not the only one who is expressing concern about many aspects of this whole thing.

(and for once, and probably the only time, I find myself in agreement with burneside).

LOL! 

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Farty Bickers
Farty Bickers
18 May 2016 10:37

I believe you can take a dump for free if that's comforting to know, don't know if you have to take your own tissue though.

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Farty Bickers
Farty Bickers
18 May 2016 10:40

@Morty Vickers (17 may 22:14) you make me laugh so much ...'life is for living, not moaning'!

 

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Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
18 May 2016 11:29

Thanks FB2. Happy to bring a smile to your face. 

Lynne
Lynne
18 May 2016 12:40

Lots of info in today's Gazette about the Highways and transport issues.

Users of Sandy Lane Playing Fields please note - according to the paper, the fields will be available for up to

1,200 cars.

Lynne
Lynne
18 May 2016 18:00

Train times: 

According to the Gaz the headline acts should finish their sets by 10.00pm. (but it could always be a bit later I guess)

How long will it take to leave Powderham and walk along to Starcross station given the crowds?

The last train going in the Newton Abbot (and therefore Dawlish and T'mouth direction) will leave Starcross at 10.44pm.

A GWR spokesperson said: " I would urge customers to allow extra time for their journeys to get to Starcross ..........the station is expected to be a lot busier than normal. A queuing system will be in place and travellers are advise to leave early and take advantage of quieter trains".

 

TRANSLATION? If you want to get back to Dawlish/T'mouth/NAbb by train then you may have to forego seeing the headline act.  

Good eh? 

Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
18 May 2016 22:59

LN, if you're going to moan about something rail-related, maybe you should moan about the normal service on a Sunday night along the Riviera Line from Exeter?

 

You're unlikely to be aware, but on every normal Sunday you can't catch a train from Exeter to Starcross or Dawlish Warren after 9pm. That's surely more worthy of you getting hot under the collar over?

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Lynne
Lynne
19 May 2016 06:45

Not getting hot under the collar at all MV. Merely pointing out the timing of the last train back to Dawlish and points west vis-a-vis the time the headline act is due to finish. Thought it might be of interest to those intending, or know of those intending, to

travel to the gig and back by train.

 

     

Lynne
Lynne
19 May 2016 07:07

Some more info: (posted by someone, not me, on another website). Wonder if MV will get hot under the collar about

my giving out this piece of info? eh?

 

Have now managed to speak to Teignbridge Commmunications Officer, Emma Piercy, who seems to be co-ordinating much of the travel side of the BBC R1 weekend.
I understand that letters have been delivered to those roads which abut Sandy Lane, giving telephone numbers for any compalints re parking etc
They have not appeared in Lower Drive, but I have suggested that as the next exit off the A379 after Sandy Lane, the residents here should also be given this information.
I have also suggested that at the entrance to Hendy Avenue off the A379, notices are posted stating there is no parking for event traffic.
I understand there are in fact 1000 parking spaces on the Sandy Lane site, and these will be on a pre=reserved basis.  What happens if they get sold out, and anyone truns up on the offchance remains to be seen!

For anyone elsewhere in the area - these are the numbers to use, on both days of the event
Complaints (?!!)  0203 328 9829
Travel enquiries 01392 265 113 

If you wish to discuss matters further with Emma, her direct line at Teignbridge is 01626 215164
Hope this will help .

Purrrrrfect
Purrrrrfect
19 May 2016 09:36

It seems Dawlish is at the butt end of the 'Taxpayer funded event'. Although I can see that the idea of not allowing vehicles to stop and off load passengers by the event seems a logical step to keep traffic moving.

In reality, because Powderham are not opening their fields, as normal, to the vehicles attending the event the roads are going to be gridlocked right through to Sandy Lane and in to Dawlish with people desperate to find somewhere to park there vehicles.

I do not see how the park and rides that are detailed would work. I say this because the shuttles would have to have unfettered access to and from the event. How would that be possible due to the potential volume of traffic potentially going to Dawlish to park. The shuttles are not going to be flying to the event and as such they will sit in the same congestion as many of the event goers.

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Lynne
Lynne
19 May 2016 11:44

Why aren't Powderham allowing more parking on their fields?

Anyone?

 

 

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Lynne
Lynne
19 May 2016 12:18

this is the text of the letter sent out by TDC

 

Dear Resident

 

BBC Radio 1’s Big Weekend, Powderham Castle - 28 and 29 May 2016

 

We are very pleased to welcome BBC Radio 1’s Big Weekend to Powderham Castle – an exciting event which brings many benefits to the local area.

Not only do thousands of local people have free tickets to see some of the world’s most popular bands, thousands more of our young people are taking part in a variety of educational workshops led by celebrities and other artists as part of the event.

All of this will help to put this part of Devon firmly on the map and bring a major boost to the local economy. We do understand, however, that an event of this scale could cause some disruption in the surrounding area, and possibly to your own neighbourhood. We apologise in advance for any inconvenience this may cause you.

We’ve been working closely with the BBC, Powderham Estate and the emergency services to minimise any disruption. We’re enclosing details of plans in place to keep everything running as smoothly as possible. 

Thank you in advance for your support as we bring this major UK event to our part of the world.

Yours sincerely

Lynne
Lynne
19 May 2016 12:29

letter continues

 

Arrangements for the Big Weekend, 28-30 May

 

Road plans  

To help ensure the smooth-running of the Big Weekend and manage extra traffic associated with a busy bank holiday, those going to the event must pre-book their travel in advance.

 

A range of transport options have been put in place including two temporary park and rides - one in Sandy Lane, Dawlish, and the other at Exeter Racecourse.

 

The Sandy Lane site will operate from 9am until midnight on both days to take people to and from the Big Weekend at Powderham Castle. Cars will park on Sandy Lane playing fields and Sandy Lane car park will be the pick up/drop off point for buses.

 

The site will be managed and kept secure to ensure disruption is kept to a minimum. Signs will direct those attending the event to the park and ride.

Residents can report any issues relating to the event from 10am to midnight on Saturday 28 and Sunday 29 May. The number is 0203 328 9829.

Sandy Lane temporary park and ride map (see enclosed)  

 

On both days, vehicles will not be permitted to stop or park on the A379 from Warren Road, Dawlish Warren to Sandy Lane, Dawlish and between Cockwood (including New Road, Starcross) and the Swan’s Nest, Exminster.

Signs warning of ‘no event parking’ will be put on roads around the area including in Dawlish, and wardens will be enforcing restrictions.

If you have a query please contact the event transport line on 01392 265113.

Illegal car parking

Extra wardens and traffic police will be patrolling the area to minimise illegal parking and deal with any obstructions or incidents. Any parked vehicles causing an issue on the highway can be reported to Devon County Council on 0345 1551 004. For any vehicles causing an obstruction please contact the Police on 101.

Litter

Teignbridge District Council’s road sweepers will carry out additional road sweeping during and after the event, and undertake regular litter clearances of the Sandy Lane car parking area.

 

Dawlish Leisure Centre

Dawlish Leisure Centre will be closed on Saturday May 28 and Sunday May 29. It will reopen on bank holiday Monday, May 30, from 9am until 4pm.

 

We would like to reassure you that this is a temporary parking site for the duration of the event only, and will be returned to its natural state once the area has been cleared.  

 

 

Lynne
Lynne
19 May 2016 12:49

The letter from TDC is accompanied by a map of Sandy Lane Playing Fields showing where the park and ride cars will be parked. 

The area is divided into 4. As I can't put the map on here I will try and explain where they are.

Car parking area 1 is located between Dawlish Leisure Centre and the chidren's playground.

Car parking area 2 is located to the north side of Dawlish Leisure Centre (where the football pitch is).

Car parking area 3 is  in the old hockey pitch area. Looks like some of the houses on Exeter Road and some houses on Henty Avenue will abut on to this.

Car parking area 4 is to the north of car parking area 3. Again it looks like some houses on Henty Avenue and on Henty Close will abut on to it.

Let's hope it doesn't rain! Can you imagine what the fields will end up looking like if that should happen!! 

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S
S
19 May 2016 13:03

Those fields are used for football and will be ruined after this weekend.

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FredBassett
FredBassett
19 May 2016 21:59

Seeing as TDC see fit to waste tax payers money (without consutation) on distributing leaflets and parking notices etc, and are also putting the Sandy lane fields at risk of being ruined should it rain resulting in more expense. This in addition to monies already donated and assuming the extra police, stewards and security are also going to be funded locally. Will they in return after the event be publishing a full and concise statement of income and expenditure for this event. From what has been advertised to date it seems this event whillst financially benificial for some is going to cost the rest of us council tax payers an absolute fortune. If this proves to be the case will it result in the sacking of those at TDC who have put the public funding at such risk.

Also to confirm another comment on this discussion, does anyone have a full list of the catering and other retailing outlets that will be trading on site showing of course their home trading address. I very much doubt that many of them will be local.

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Lynne
Lynne
20 May 2016 06:55

@FB re names of catering outlets. Have you tried asking someone at TDC for that info?

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Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
20 May 2016 09:17

As probably the only contributor to this forum who's going to be attending OBW, I've already said that I'd advise the forum about the catering outlets. I know of two Dawlish businesses that will definitely be there. And that's just two because I know them personally and they've told

me. One of them also said that the vast majority of outlets will be from Teignbridge and Exeter. 

UPWITHIT
UPWITHIT
20 May 2016 11:02

Can we have names of all catering outlets.

BEE9
BEE9
20 May 2016 11:44

@Morty Vicker - when will you advise the forum about the catering outlets, it would be good to know before the event.

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Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
20 May 2016 12:48

@BEE9. why do you need to know before the event? 

BEE9
BEE9
20 May 2016 12:52

@Morty Vicker - why not?

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Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
20 May 2016 13:27

sorry @BEE9, the way you were asking suggested that you had an urgent need to know. i didn't realise that you didn't really care. 

Lynne
Lynne
20 May 2016 15:17

I've been told (by TDC) it is the BBC that can answer such questions as:

1. the names and business addresses of all those who will be offering catering facilities

2.the process by which these caterers were chosen

3.What costs they have each had to pay (and to whom) to be able to trade at the festival

 

    

DJ
DJ
20 May 2016 18:28

Ok, sorry to be a bit thick here, but say you get this information, it is highly unlikely that you will get it any time soon and it will probably be long after the event is over.  So what exactly are you going to then do with that information?  There seems to be a bit of an obsession with the food stands at the event. 

If it is the BBC who are answering the questions then surely it is the BBC who have the contract to hand out to traders, so it isn't a direct decision made by anyone on our local Council or Powderham Estate, the BBC have "rented" the venue and so they are setting the rules, so it isn't really a stick you can beat them with.  And in any case it is going to be after the event, which is a one off, is done and dusted.  So why exactly does it matter?  There isn't an event like this ANYWHERE, where the food outlets aren't sub-contracted out and the charges set to cover the cost to those traders in actually being at the event and paying all their associated costs.  And I have yet to go to a concert (haven't been to a festival but I expect they are similar) where there aren't restrictions on what food you can or can't take into the venue.  If you go to the O2 in London as an example, you can buy food at outlets inside the building/tent thing at restaurants etc.  But when you go through the ticket gates into the concert hall itself you have to give anything up and then purchase from the more expensive stands inside that area.  It is just how it is.  It is how they cover the HUGE costs that they have.

 

I am not going to this event, no-one in my family is connected with it, trading at it or attending it so I have no agenda on this at all.  I am just STUNNED by how much time people are spending worrying about an event that will be over in a few short days and that will yes, be a little be inconvenient for some, but will bring huge amounts of pleasure to others.  Does it really matter if the food stalls are all run by people who live within say a 10 mile radius of the venue?  Are we that insular in Dawlish/Teignbridge/Devon?

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Dil
Dil
20 May 2016 20:41

I recently commented about the many occasions when our sea front cafes cannot be bothered to open on a fair weather day why on earth should we be bothered if they don't get a bumper pay day at the Big Event. I'd agree that I'm not happy that our money was given towards this event, but apart from that I won't be losing sleep over it, it's what it is and it'll soon be gone and forgotten and I hope those who attend have a great time.

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DJ
DJ
20 May 2016 22:05

Well said Dil

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Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
20 May 2016 22:14

hit the nail on the head there @Dil and @DJ

burneside
burneside
20 May 2016 22:36

@Dil

The reason people have a problem with this event is because it is being financed by the taxpayer (BBC & Council Tax), yet are being ripped off as though it is a normal commercial venture. It is not comparable to a concert at the O2.

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Lynne
Lynne
21 May 2016 09:44

oooooo.........er............frown do so hope the weather isn't like this next weekend! 

ZIGGY
ZIGGY
21 May 2016 10:28

Did you know you need to book your transport to Radio 1's ‪#‎BigWeekend‬ by the end of today?

 

Book from:http://www.powderham.co.uk/transport-guide

Lynne
Lynne
21 May 2016 10:43

Trains - note this from the above website.

The length of time it takes to walk from Powderham to Starcross (20mins and I guess that's on

a good day when there are no crowds), the approx time that the last set will finish (22.00hrs) and the

times of the last trains leaving Starcross going in a westerly direction.

Sat. 22.36

Sun 22.29

 

 

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S
S
21 May 2016 12:16

I contacted FGW about the time of the train and they just said there would be staff managing crowds and that is an additional train. My complaint about the time would be logged.

 

Just ill prepared for 25000 people!!

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Neoliberal Democrat
Neoliberal Democrat
21 May 2016 12:51

I resent tax payers money being used to part fund an aristocrat's business venture. I know of people whose relative lives near the estate and they were going to park in her drive and take the 5 minute or so walk to the concert grounds.

Said relative, brought up her visiting family members excitement about the Big Weekend and casually mentioned the parking arrangement in conversation with an estate worker recently, who told her that he didn't think that was allowed! On what grounds?

Perhaps they'll construct a tithe barn next, oh hang on that'll be Forde House.

 

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flo
flo
21 May 2016 16:39

Leisure Centre will be closed in Dawlish Saturday/Sunday for anyone who usually goes there.

Neoliberal Democrat
Neoliberal Democrat
21 May 2016 16:47

Why? because of the car parking, or can't you have a fun anywhere else unless you're going to the Big Weekend?

Lisa
Lisa
21 May 2016 18:27

My husband works on the roads and he tells me that the council notice posted above by Gary Taylor on 16th May is made under the wrong section of law and most likely unenforceable. Apparently special events require notices to be made under section 16A Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984. The council notice is made under section 14 which is for notices where road works are taking place or where there is a threat of danger such as fallen trees.

 

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Gary Taylor
Gary Taylor
22 May 2016 14:32

That is interesting, Lisa.

 

It's probably too late for DCC to change the notice type with less than one week to go - but in any case I would hope most motorists would wish to abide by the spirit of the notice and the number of signs advising 'no stopping', in order to keep traffic flowing well past the site.

 

Let's hope also that some flexibility is employed by those marshalling the event. I have heard for instance that some local residents with tickets were originally advised to drive to Exeter to get the park-and-ride to obtain entry. Common sense, I understand, in these circumstances should now prevail.

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leatash
leatash
22 May 2016 17:48

Parking is suspended in the Strand will this not affect traders over that weekend  ??

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Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
22 May 2016 21:52

Is that not the Strand in Starcross rather than the Strand in Dawlish? If Dawlish for some reason, then that makes no sense. If Starcross, then I'm sure the few businesses there won't be too bothered as the extra footfall will make up for it. 

Gary Taylor
Gary Taylor
22 May 2016 23:42

Leatash, Morty, You are both right.

 

Parking is suspended in both The Strand in Starcross and The Strand in Dawlish (times per posted notices) - but for entirely different reasons.

 

Starcross per the Powderham bash above, but Dawlish will be having a big weekend of its own - with a number of events planned, starting on Friday 27th (before the road closure) with a charity coffee morning at Luscombe Castle (if you've never been it is fabulous 'gothic folly' style residence in a glorious setting - and really not to be missed). On Saturday there will be a Street Market on The Strand combined with a Family Fun Day on The Lawn, then on Sunday there is a vintage cycle bash and scooter rally on The Lawn (2 wheels definitely the way to go next weekend - but there will be 4-wheeled classics on display also in Teignmouth) plus concerts, arts and crafts, games and all sorts right through the following week. 

 

There is a sixteen page event guide for Dawlish and Teignmouth now available from most town centre outlets. Please come and support these events and local traders - and don't miss out on the fun!

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Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
23 May 2016 06:54

Thanks Gary. Sounds like the events planned in town will be a great boost for traders. 

ZIGGY
ZIGGY
23 May 2016 19:03
flo
flo
23 May 2016 21:36

Talking to a couple of people tonight whose kids are going, seems to be quite a few who haven't decided how they're getting there!

Lynne
Lynne
24 May 2016 07:04

So depending on where they live it might be Shanks's pony, the train (but remember what I have posted about the time the last train leaves Starcross!) or the number 2 bus.   

Lynne
Lynne
24 May 2016 15:54

More info about how to get to/from Powderham here

http://www.powderham.co.uk/transport-guide

Margaret Swift
Margaret Swift
24 May 2016 23:41

Well, I have been talking to a friend today who is going to the concert. Mum, dad and two children. The concept of a free concert went out of the window weeks ago, as we all know. Tickets are NOT free when you have to pay the ticket master £8.50 for each ticket! Park and ride is £11 per person so, as they cannot afford £44 they are paying £27.50 to park in Powderham grounds. Who is getting all that money? And then they cannot take food in, just one bottle of water each, so they will eat a big breakfast and then eat a sandwich lunch in their car before entering the grounds. Let's hope this thread is not subject to covert monitoring otherwise they might be rumbled  and charged for eating their own food in their own car on the public highway!

 

A free concert.............I don't think so! 

 

A waste of of tax payers money.........I definitely think so! 

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ZIGGY
ZIGGY
25 May 2016 12:41

Coastguards warn fans without tickets not to travel by boat to the Big Weekend

Neoliberal Democrat
Neoliberal Democrat
25 May 2016 12:52

What do you expect from the aristocarcy?

Lynne
Lynne
25 May 2016 12:56

Re catering - I've just had info about this sent to me by the BBC.

Would love to post the info on here but there is a rider at the bottom of the e-mail saying that I can't disclose its contents!!!

Neoliberal Democrat
Neoliberal Democrat
25 May 2016 13:00

@Lynne, i was going to suggest a snapshot of the webpage. But that'd probably be an infringement.

 

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Lynne
Lynne
25 May 2016 13:04

So, here is the email address that the sender of the BBC info used.

BigWeekendEnquiries@bbc.co.uk

I post that should any of you wish to contact the BBC and find out for yourselves (but ssshhhhh!!!!!!! be sure not to make the info public!)    

Neoliberal Democrat
Neoliberal Democrat
25 May 2016 13:11

This relates to the question; Who owns the BBC? It should be accountable to the license fee payer.

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DJ
DJ
25 May 2016 18:18

So going back to my previous post on the subject of catering - Lynne you now have the information you wanted.  To what purpose exactly?  What was the point?  Does it change anything about the weekend or the arrangements for the weekend?  Does it make any difference whatsoever?  I still don't get the point?!

 

And please don't answer it with a blah blah tax payers money, blah blah whatever.  THE MONEY FROM THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN SPENT, GETTING THIS INFORMATION DOES NOT CHANGE THAT!!!!

 

All this is just such a waste of time and energy.  But I will admit to being slightly amused by just how much of a lather people are getting in over it.  With the millions of pounds of tax payer money wasted every year, or spent on projects that I don't personally like or agree with but others love and think essential, this is such a tiny drop in the ocean.   No-one is being "ripped off" over this concert - go or don't go, up to each person individually.  But for those who have chosen to go it will be CONSIDERABLY cheaper than any other comparable concert/festival, even if they spend to park/park and ride and eat in the venue.

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BEE9
BEE9
25 May 2016 18:54

@DJ..stop whining, you are sounding more like morty. if someone wanted the info it is not down to you to whine on about why they want it.

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Lynne
Lynne
25 May 2016 19:34

@DJ - because i wanted to know, that's why.

As far as I am concerned the info that the BBC sent me should be in the public domain and without me or anyone else having to ask for it.​ 

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Neoliberal Democrat
Neoliberal Democrat
25 May 2016 21:01

Is DJ really the Earl of Devon or Jeremy Christophers?

Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
25 May 2016 22:26

@Lynne

That footer is probably a bog standard one that you'll find at the bottom of most emails from large organisations. Seriously LN, it's nothing sinister, and definitely won't be specific to the email you've received. There's nothing, legally, to stop you sharing the info. As it happens, we'll all know in 3 days time anyway! So why the biggy?

 

@BEE9

DJ isn't the one doing the whining, it's you miserable lot. I know so many people going who are really excited about being able to attend this once in a generation event. People of all ages I might add. It's going to be a great weekend, a great advert for our area and, as a side, a great money spinner for our local economy. No matter what negative spin you weave. 

flo
flo
25 May 2016 22:30

Let's be fair.  The title of this thread indicates what is being discussed.  If you're not interested in the thread, don't read or reply to it.  Simple.  Walk away and do something more interesting, you're not obliged to get involved. 

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Neoliberal Democrat
Neoliberal Democrat
25 May 2016 22:40

@flo, well put.

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Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
25 May 2016 22:52

@flo it's a discussion. you know, a two way (or more) thing. are you seriously saying that we're not allowed to publish both sides of the story? wow. just wow. 

 

@Neo. You might want to consider practicing what you preach Sonny Jim. 

Neoliberal Democrat
Neoliberal Democrat
25 May 2016 23:15

@Morty Vickers. that makes little sense 'sonny jim'.

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Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
25 May 2016 23:28

@Neo

 

You don't strike me as being the sort of person to want to stifle discussion. I hope that's clearer for you. 

Neoliberal Democrat
Neoliberal Democrat
25 May 2016 23:37

@Morty Vickers. I just felt that Flo had a valid point. Those calling others whiners or a miserable lot because they would like some clarity regarding finances is hardly conducive to open discussion.

Whether you agree with it or not some local people are very angry, so why antagonise them further?

 

It's inevitable that this thread will produce discussion on that matter.

Why not start another thread for those of you looking forward to the gig?

I just feel you and DJ aren't going to get any joy regarding this topic because you don't see any validity in asking questions about how the event is managed from the outset.

 

 

 

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Lynne
Lynne
26 May 2016 08:39

Found this:

1) HOW CAN I GET A TRADER'S PITCH AT RADIO 1'S BIG WEEKEND?
Central Catering Services will be managing the concessions process for the event - if you are interested in applying to trade, please email them on concessions@centralcatering.com They will be able to provide you with details of how to register and the relevant costs for pitches.  Please note the closing date for applications was Friday 26th February - however it is possible late applications may be accepted in some areas.

2) I AM INTERESTED IN SUPPLYING SPECIALIST SERVICES TO THE EVENT - WHO DO I CONTACT?
You have already come to the right place! Last year we received offers of everything from tents and crowd control barriers, to people wanting to offer skateboarding lessons and even a professional wrestling show. Our events team monitor this email account on a regular basis and, if they are interested in getting more information about your company, will get in contact with you. Please don't be offended if you don't hear back from them personally however - it just means we aren't looking for assistance in your particular area.   

3) CAN MY CHARITY HAVE A STAND AT THE EVENT TO PROMOTE WHAT WE DO?
Unfortunately there is only limited space at the event and we are not able to accommodate local groups wanting to have a stand over the weekend.

4) CAN I GET TICKETS FOR MY CHARITY TO GIVE AWAY?
No, sorry, but we are not able to give tickets out to good causes for competitions or giveaways. If you are emailing to ask for tickets for someone due to their special circumstances, we will get back to you nearer the event. We do get a lot of requests however, and can only usually help with a small number of them, so we would urge you to also try applying for tickets in the usual way.

5) CAN MY BAND PLAY AT THE EVENT?
The line-up for this year's event is complete; however, if you are UK based and want to get your music heard, check out BBC Introducing:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/introducing/advice/. You can upload tracks here and, even if there is no space at this year's festival, you may be considered for other events!

6) CAN I VOLUNTEER AT THE EVENT?
It is possible there will be a few opportunities to do work placements or get involved with volunteering at the event via the Radio 1 Academy - details of this will be announced in April...please keep an eye out for information on the 'Radio 1 Academy' pages online. You should also check out our #1MillionHours campaign: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0387cft

Adverts for the general Radio 1 & 1Xtra 'Take It On' Interns scheme, as well as other work experience placements and vacancies across the BBC, are advertised here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/careers/home. Sorry, but we are unable to help with work experience requests via this address.  
 

 

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Lynne
Lynne
26 May 2016 10:54

This is on Eyes of Dawlish

 

EVENT PARKING - With the big weekend event approaching. We are pleased to advise that private parking for around 20 cars will be made available at our Firbank Garage site opposite Shutterton Ind Est from Friday 7.30am - 11.30pm there will be a daily charge of £20/car and there will be no blocking in permitted and strictly no overnighting. The Hop2 bus stops are just 20 metres away and across the road returning. This is private land unsecured and not insured so you park at your own risk. No Vans, campers or lorries unless room is available ring to enquire on 07550230153

Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
26 May 2016 12:50

It's only £10 to park at the orchard field at Cockwood harbour. Much nearer and obviously much cheaper. 

Lynne
Lynne
26 May 2016 15:02

Can I ask two questions please? (although it's three questions if you think about it........)

1. Where is the Orchard Field in Cockwood?

 

2. I know that at one time a member of the Jeffries family was a TDC councillor but that was some time ago. So do they have one

now then?

 

Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
26 May 2016 16:53

LN. It's the orchard on the left hand bend after the harbour and towards Starcross. I've no idea who owns it, and frankly don't care. 

Lynne
Lynne
26 May 2016 17:03

Just had an e-mail back from the Beeb saying okay to put contents of the email they sent me on websites. So here it is.

 

"Teignbridge Council have passed on your details to us as the BBC has responsibility for arranging on-site catering facilities at Radio 1’s Big Weekend.

 

The event is being managed by the BBC’s Popular Music Live Events team, who run a wide range of events and festivals across the year. The two green field events looked after by the team are Radio 1’s Big Weekend and Radio 2’s Proms in the Park/Festival in a Day weekend; and a tender to provide catering services at the two events was advertised in March 2016.

 

The successful bidder for the combined contract was Central Catering Services – a well establish festival catering provider. The price they offered the BBC is commercially sensitive and not some we are able to comment on.

 

As is normal practice at many festivals, Central Catering then sub-contracts to a wide range of individual outlets, charging each a fee for their pitch. The BBC is not directly involved in the decisions as to which companies are chosen and does not hold details of the successful companies at our offices here in London. Pitch fees will likely vary depend any on various factors - structure, location, size, type of food etc. It is also worth saying Central Catering used their website and social media to try and engage new suppliers, with a special focus on local suppliers, to provide a range of festival foods."

 

Hope that helps - LN

 

Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
26 May 2016 17:21

Thanks LN. Like I've previous stated a couple of times, I personally know of two local suppliers. And I look forward to providing you all with a full list over the weekend. I bet you can't wait...

 

Daverc
Daverc
27 May 2016 09:42

I've been told that no sub-contractor can operate on both Sat and Sun: it's one or the other.

Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
27 May 2016 15:21

not true @Daverc

Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
27 May 2016 19:45

Saw this on Facebook by local business Buen Appetito earlier. Their stall, by the way is immediately next door to Chunk pasties, another fantastic local supplier:

 

⊙⊙ HOT FOOD OVER THE WEEKEND, for just £5 ⊙⊙
 
Freshly cooked & generously filled 'Chicken' and 'Chicken & chorizo' paella either in a takeaway box or one of our delicious 'sweet chilli' or 'Mediterranean wraps', these will be available throughout the weekend, just look out for the 'PAELLA & BURRITO' sky banner below, we are to the left of the Main Stage!!
 
Add grated mature cheddar & a choice of either sweet chilli or garlic mayo or both together, all at no additional cost!!!!! You can even taste it first for free too!
 
We believe in offering freshly cooked, healthy, tasty, hot food at affordable prices, which is why we sell out every time at 'Boardmasters, Let's Rock 80's, V Festival and now, of course, Radio 1 Big Weekend!'. Come and see for yourself why thousands come back to us two or three times a day!
 
Gluten, lactose, nut, shellfish free!
5 Star Food Hygiene rating!
 
Just look for the Black Gazebo with the following Sky Banner!
 
ONLY £5......
Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
27 May 2016 19:51

And their neighbour on the other side is Crepe Beret. From Brixham. Probably not local enough for some of you I guess...

Neoliberal Democrat
Neoliberal Democrat
27 May 2016 22:37

So what's the TDC payment of £100K for? A backhander?

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Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
27 May 2016 22:52

Don't talk neonsense... Good grief it's a commercial arrangement done in the best interest of the district. 

Neoliberal Democrat
Neoliberal Democrat
27 May 2016 22:54

What for? a cut of the profits? Will TDC recoup the £100K. I don't care whether you think my question is nonsense.

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Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
27 May 2016 22:59

Sadly, some misguided folk will agree with your neonsense about it being a backhander. Local businesses and individuals are all benefitting from this once in a generation opportunity. That's why TDC quite rightly are contributing towards the costs of this event. 

Neoliberal Democrat
Neoliberal Democrat
27 May 2016 23:06

Like I wrote previously, I don't care whether you think my question is nonsense.

In any case how can these so called 'misguided' folk agree or disagree with a question?

A statement maybe, but not a question.

Teignbridge District Council are in the business of commercial arrangements these days (Bovis, Strongvox, Cavanna, Redrow), but not necessarily in the best interests of those who live in the area.

Feel free to agree or disagree.

 

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FredBassett
FredBassett
28 May 2016 09:19

Its cost the council tax payers a dam sight more than the 200k donated without consutation by TDC and DCC. Resufacing the footpaths around the castle entrance and the general street cleaning alone have cost more than that on top. Quite looking foward to presenting a F.O.I request for a breakdown of costs against income for the event as a whole. A guess would be its cost the local (including Exeter in that) tax payers in excess of £1million. Its the hidden things that cost like admin, H&S, risk assesments by NHS, Police and Fire services and loads of other stuff.

The big unknown that may well play a part is the weather. If it rains heavily and the main arena turns into a mud bath the health and safety lot will have no option but to clear the site. Have seen this happen before and then nobody makes any money. Outdoor event planning is a risky business financially.

Hope its a nice weekend and everyone enjoys and even makes a buck

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Dil
Dil
28 May 2016 19:39

I'm so pleased for all concerned that it appears to be going really well at Powderham, I wasn't interested in going and have had an equally lovely time in and around Dawlish on a lovely day(still wondering when Pirates Chest or whatever it is called on the seafront is going to open though but that's another thread!!).  I'm just insensed fredBassett with a little pot and black going on, no doubt there are a few regular F.O.I presenters and if only they stopped and thought for a minute how much these F.O.I's must be costing, whole industries are being set up to manage these. It now looks likely that quite often they are only submitted in order to score points on forums like these and really won't make diddly squat difference in future decisions. It is people's right to submit these requests but please don't knock others for wasting tax payers monies when you're probably wasting as much with little or no benefit to anyone.

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Neoliberal Democrat
Neoliberal Democrat
28 May 2016 20:42

I've never requested a FOI, but I would request one in relation to the Big Weekend. Elected bodies that do deals behind closed doors and do not consult those they represent and use public money unwisely should be held to account. It's a question of transparency and democracy.

Lots of people are unhappy with TDC and many in DTC over Powderham, Housing, Sewage, etc. I doubt they're all concerned with petty point scoring. To suggest so is frankly insulting.

and @Dil 'but please don't knock others for wasting tax payers monies..'?

It's a vicious circle really. If taxpayers money wasn't wasted in the first place, which you don't refute, consequently there would be little need to make FOI requests.

It's like saying 'please don't knock corruption, because investigating or exposing it will cost 'us all even more in monetary terms'. It's absurd. It's so submissive and passive. Not everyone just bends over and lets others shaft them.

Plus there's more to it than just money.

And what industries? Do you mean the civil service can't cope with complaints against local and national government these days? Hardly surprising. The onus is on government to get their s**t together. Not on the public to stay silent.

 

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Margaret Swift
Margaret Swift
14 Jul 2016 22:54

@Liberal Democrat, perhaps you should now request your FOI given the disclosure of the additional £100,000 this event cost, split evenly between Exeter and Teignbridge. An FOI would reveal the true cost of this wasteful event to taxpayers, they have a right to know! 

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Morty Vicker
Morty Vicker
23 Aug 2016 22:12

Did anyone on this thread actually make a FOI request?

I would have hoped that if they had, then they'd have shared the outcome with us all. 

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