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Andrew
Andrew
02 Jun 2017 20:05

Got the Conservative flyer for the General Election;

 

Isn't that Lib Dem Councillor Martin Wrigley photographed standing next to MP Anne-Marie Morris?

Or has he defected?

Comedy Gold!

Lynne
Lynne
03 Jun 2017 06:43

Yes, I saw that as well.

I'm still undecided as to whether that's a Tory **** up or Tory mischief making.  

Andrew
Andrew
03 Jun 2017 11:27

Maybe the Tories miss their junior partners and the coalition is back on... 

Lynne
Lynne
03 Jun 2017 12:03

I have emailed both MW and AMM asking them about the photo - where & when it was taken etc.

I have already had a response from one of them. I await a response from the other.  

Andrew
Andrew
03 Jun 2017 18:42

@Lynne did you ask if the mayor has defected to the tories?

Lynne
Lynne
03 Jun 2017 20:52

@Andrew - very funny. no i didn't.

As it is the weekend I am giving the other person whom I contacted a few days grace to get back to me. If they don't then I will post only the one reply on here I have received. (I told both persons that I would put their responses in the public domain).   

TheObserver
TheObserver
05 Jun 2017 12:38

Well let's hear thier responses then? There are many Councillors who at one stage believed in one party and soon changed in order to grab a seat. Dawlish has been renowed for this over the years. However what is shocking to the point, that if one chooses not give a clear explanation, or even an honest one. Where do we stand in terms of being honest, open and reliable? 

Lynne
Lynne
05 Jun 2017 13:55

Like I said, I am giving the one who is yet to respond some time in order to do so.

If I haven't heard anything back by,say, approx this time tomorrow I'll just post the one response that I got back.   

Lynne
Lynne
06 Jun 2017 09:46

So......I have still only had the one response back - from Cllr Wrigley.  I asked both him and Ms Morris about the photo and why a Lib Dem is shown in a Tory election leaflet. 

 

Here is Cllr Wrigley's reply in full.

 

Dear Lynne,

I too was very surprised to see this.

It was not put in with my permission, but since it was taken at an open meeting, and we posed for Network rail to take the picture, I have no say in the matter.

 

It was a meeting to discuss the flooding at Eastdon that I had been working on with the Network Rail engineer, hosted by Network Rail in the Langstone Cliff.

https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/flood-relief-boost-for-rail-passengers-road-users-and-residents-in-devon#

 

I haven’t seen this photo published elsewhere, but I do recall that Mrs Morris’s aide may also have taken a snap at that time.

 

I would like to point out that I do not support Mrs Morris, and will be voting for the best choice for Newton Abbot – Marie Chadwick.

 

Many thanks

Martin.

 

 

Andrew
Andrew
06 Jun 2017 22:46

@Lynne i wonder why you bother sometimes.

 

 

TheObserver
TheObserver
07 Jun 2017 11:27

Well I'm not going to answer for Ms Morris, she chooses not to respond to emails, possibly very wise.

 

However let's look at Mr Wrigleys reply. 

 

And pay attention to the following line "I would like to point out that I do not support Mrs Morris"

 

Well as the Mayor of Dawlish, as a Councillor, perhaps if you supported those you work with things would be much better in our world. Idiot.

Lynne
Lynne
07 Jun 2017 12:00

Of course he is not supporting Ms Morris.

Why on earth would a Lib Dem support a Tory who is standing for election against, amongst others, another Lib Dem.

Are you seriously suggesting that we would we expect a Tory mayor to say that they would be supporting a Lib Dem candidate?

 

 

TheObserver
TheObserver
07 Jun 2017 12:08

I'm suggesting that as a Human, As the Mayor of Dawlish, as a Councillor, that if he worked along side Ms Morris, rather than show a well displayed disgust attitude towards her, maybe the world could be a little bit of a better place. Is it not Lynne, that if I was an independant and my work colleague was a Conservative that we should both sit in different rooms and not talk to each other?

Lynne
Lynne
07 Jun 2017 12:17

It is election time. Of course, he is not supporting her re-election.

(and where is the "well displayed disgust"?) 

Please give me an example of a Tory supporting a Lib Dem in election time. 

And actually isn't that photo an example of his doing that very thing you are saying he should do? ie working with her  to try and solve a problem. 

Andrew
Andrew
07 Jun 2017 13:04

@Lynne, so you're on first name terms with the mayor, are you friends?

What did you expect Wrigley's response to be? 'Oh yes I've defected to the Tories and I'm voting for Anne-Marie Morris'?

And what would Anne-Marie Morris' response be? 'Yes it was all a bit of mischief with the photo, we hatched the plan after a few sherries in the Conservative club'?

 

I wonder why you bother.

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TheObserver
TheObserver
07 Jun 2017 13:05

Forget I said anything Councillor Lynne. Not in the spirit to argue or defend a matter of having an opinion. 

Andrew
Andrew
07 Jun 2017 13:16

@Lynne "It is election time. Of course, he is not supporting her re-election."

Cllr Wrigley obviously thought it was necessary to state that he's not voting for Anne-Marie Morris. And well I never turns out he's voting for the Lib Dem candidate.

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TheObserver
TheObserver
07 Jun 2017 13:20

that was my thinking exactly @Andrew - we know he is not likely to vote for anne-marine morris, why does he feel the need to air this fact. 

 

and i further agree with you @Andrew that councillor @Lynne seems to be very much a good freind with the mayor, unless of course they both sit on the same council?

Andrew
Andrew
07 Jun 2017 13:27

because anyone who is confident and secure wouldn't feel the need to reply to @Lynne's email. they'd just see the photo as a meaningless mistake or perhaps a bit of tory mischief. that flyer would have been sent out all over the constituency, only a small number of people in dawlish who are interested in the charade that is dtc would recognize cllr wrigley.

 

@TheObserver are you suggesting that the name lynne is a pseudonym? is @Lynne a councillor?

She does know a lot about the town council and is always posting council news items, documents and links.

TheObserver
TheObserver
07 Jun 2017 13:31

I tend to quite agree, other than in the past many Mayors will take thier chains of until at a location of interest, whereas Cllr Wrigley tends to wear it in elegance and style wherever he goes. :D 

TheObserver
TheObserver
07 Jun 2017 13:34

@Andrew - well who knows, might as well be, seems to know plenty about the councillors, and seems to address them very happily as friends. we shall never know that truth. 

TheObserver
TheObserver
07 Jun 2017 13:35

out of interest what policitcal party, if your happy to disclose, do you actually support yourself @Lynne ?

Andrew
Andrew
07 Jun 2017 13:40

He does seemed rather chuffed with himself on the councillor profile photo. Maybe always wearing the chains are to do with peacocking? A display of power and manliness.

 

http://www.dawlish.gov.uk/members.php

TheObserver
TheObserver
07 Jun 2017 13:46

@Andrew - funny enough i just looked at that photo just after i sent my last message. i guess you must be right, and hit the nail is what i'd say you've done. its surely no difference with a police officer for example, he would be required to take his uniform of when not at work? perhaps cllr wrigley is always at work, great if he is, but surely he needs to earn a keep outside of council life.

Andrew
Andrew
08 Jun 2017 12:43

@TheObserver - he does he earns a living developing websites and apps  which is presumably where he honed his excellent people skills.

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