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Lynne
Lynne
06 Dec 2017 11:39

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DC24601
DC24601
06 Dec 2017 12:26

Oh no it isn't!

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leatash
leatash
06 Dec 2017 12:30

For the first time in years a reduction in immigration exactly what i voted for and we havent even left yet.

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Lynne
Lynne
06 Dec 2017 13:16

@DC24601

 

Oh yes it is!

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Cassandra
Cassandra
06 Dec 2017 17:52

Look out, it's behind you! (or is it in front, difficult to tell at the moment).

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Lynne
Lynne
06 Dec 2017 19:47

Peter Pan could tell you where 'it' (the croc) is Cassandra - you just have to listen out for the sound it makes.

Tick    tock. 

Lynne
Lynne
07 Dec 2017 07:59

The question is.............. who should play the pantomime dame? Donald J Trump or Boris Johnson? 

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Lynne
Lynne
07 Dec 2017 13:40

Or maybe it's a Whitehall Farce?

From the front page of today's i newspaper. 

 

"Hammond (that's the Chancellor of the Exchequer) says Britain should pay EU £50bn even if trade talks collapse - and admits Cabinet hasn't discussed type of Brexit the UK will seek from Brussels"

 

and

 

"Brexit Secretary claims government hasn't yet looked at Brexit's impact on the economy........or on anything else".  

leatash
leatash
07 Dec 2017 13:59

The dame should be played by Jean-Claude-Yuncker and the rest of his cronies can fill in when needed.

Lynne
Lynne
08 Dec 2017 12:39

The farce, pantomime, call it what you will, continues.

Today we are told that there is now an agreement that there will be regulatory alignment between us and the EU. (Irish border problem resolved).

So are we going to have the same regulations then as the EU? But no imput on what those regulations will be?

And if we want a free trade deal wouldn't we need to have the same regulations anyway?

I'm beginning to feel like I've fallen down a rabbit hole.

I'll be seeing white rabbits next.

burneside
burneside
08 Dec 2017 13:09

Anybody who thought Remainer Theresa May would live up to her "Brexit means Brexit" promise is an idiot.  The establishment has got what it wanted.

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Lynne
Lynne
09 Dec 2017 08:20

Baron Hardup (Cinderella's father) could be played by Nigel Farage? 

 

 

 

majorp
majorp
09 Dec 2017 09:22

And what will the other mep's get? The same, less, more or nothing. 

leatash
leatash
09 Dec 2017 09:42

Will all the pensioners living in the sun in Spain, Greece, etc now lose there winter fuel payment.

Lynne
Lynne
09 Dec 2017 10:03

Pensions - ah yes, it will be interesting to see how that one pans out.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/pensions/article-4899796/Pensions-British-expats-STOP-without-Brexit-deal.html

 

and do those expat pensioners in warmer climes still get the winter fuel allowance?

 

Lynne
Lynne
09 Dec 2017 10:18

my emphasis in bold red:

2. Eligibility

You qualify for a Winter Fuel Payment if both the following apply:

  • you were born on or before 5 August 1953
  • you’ll be living in the UK for at least one day during the week of 18 to 24 September 2017 - this is called the ‘qualifying week’

If you won’t be living in the UK during the qualifying week, you might still get the payment if both the following apply:

  • you live in Switzerland or a European Economic Area (EEA) country
  • you have a genuine link with the UK social security system, such as having lived or worked in the UK for most of your life

You can’t get the payment if you live in Cyprus, France, Gibraltar, Greece, Malta, Portugal or Spain because the average winter temperature is higher than the warmest region of the UK.

 

b.o.liking
b.o.liking
09 Dec 2017 11:06

I did metion before here and in the local; press  that we would not leave the E.U and the chances gave odds against  32 to the power of 32 which is increasing all the time..

Teresa May who I gave more credit for obviously than she is worth.should stand down. Certain Conservatives are notable by there absence and comments.

As for theresa May It reminds an old  quote you have been here too long in the name of God go

or something like it

Lynne
Lynne
09 Dec 2017 11:13

Go and be replaced by whom?

Robin Hood? (aka Jeremy Corbyn) 

b.o.liking
b.o.liking
09 Dec 2017 11:25

Surely the conservatives are not so scarce of any who have one ounce of  leadership quality.If this is true then these

lovers should not be in Parliament. 

burneside
burneside
09 Dec 2017 13:05

People bang on about Farage's penison, but at least he served a purpose and we are getting some kind of Brexit, without him we would be shackled to the corrupt EU forever.  Some of his speeches in the EU parliament were corkers and had Druncker, Schulz and the rest squirming in their seats.

And let's not forget all the MEPs & commissioners past and present who will be getting their EU pension, like Mandelson and both the Kinnocks.  They've had a pretty good existence at the expense of the rest of us.

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Lynne
Lynne
09 Dec 2017 14:17

Yes but they haven't been whingeing on about how awful the EU is, have they? That is the difference between them and Baron Hardup.   

leatash
leatash
09 Dec 2017 14:21

Spot on burnside me i would have told the EU negotiaters to stick it a long time ago as always it's the EU way or no way and remember they don't want us to leave and will do everything they can to make these negotiations as difficult as possible.

Lynne
Lynne
09 Dec 2017 14:26

I see Michael Gove is on maenouvres.

I think he should be cast as King Rat (Dick Whittington). 

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leatash
leatash
09 Dec 2017 14:27

And i will add if previous goverments of any colour had curbed immigration we wouldnt be were we are today as i believe immigration was the single biggest issue with the out voters.

Lynne
Lynne
09 Dec 2017 14:28

Oh and I wonder who would be cast as the villain of the piece. No doubt a nasty foreigner from over 'there' somewhere.

Bet his initials would be E and U.  

Lynne
Lynne
09 Dec 2017 14:34

Now here's the thing Leatash. I've heard it said that when it comes to future immigration all may not be as under control as some might like to think.  

 

 

 

burneside
burneside
09 Dec 2017 15:26

Ex-Commissioners are simply not allowed to be critical of the organisation, for fear of losing their lucrative pension, the EU has got them gagged.

 

Lord Mandelson is not allowed to criticise the European Union if he wants to keep hold of his £31,000-a-year pension as a former European Commissioner, The Daily Telegraph has learned.

...European Union rules show that if he speaks out against Europe as a former Commissioner he could be stripped of his pension altogether.  

 

Documents seen by campaigners show that Lord Mandelson and other Commissioners have to abide by certain obligations 

"both during and after their term of  office".

 

One of these obligations as a staff member of the Commission is to maintain a "duty of loyalty to the Communities".  The rules also note 

that "an official has the right to freedom of expression, with due respect to the principles of loyalty and impartiality".  If they fail to 

demonstrate loyalty to the EU, Lord Mandelson can be "deprived of his right to a pension or other benefits", the rules say.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/4996440/Lord-Mandelson-must-remain-loyal-to-EU-to-guarantee-pension.html

 

It will be interesting to see what the likes of Mandelson and Kinnock have to say when the Brexit legislation reaches the House of Lords.  They certainly won't want to be upsetting their paymasters.

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Lynne
Lynne
09 Dec 2017 15:54

They'll have no need to criticise the EU. The anti EU lords will do that.  

And on the matter of Baron Hardup  ............ http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ukip-leader-nigel-farage-euro-3012708

It seems he and his cronies readily bought into that goose and its golden egg.

   

burneside
burneside
09 Dec 2017 17:16

I have no problem with Farage claiming legitimate expenses for his work in Brussels.  He is a thorn in the EU parliament's side, for which I applaud him.  While we are on the subject of EU expenses, it is widely recognised the system is rotten to the core.  This article is from 2009, no doubt the figures today are much higher.

MEPs have been quietly clocking up hundreds of thousands of pounds a year in expenses without so much as showing a receipt.

And the perks are astonishing. On top of a basic salary of £83,282 a year (representing a huge pay rise for UK MEPs from June onwards), 

£41,573 in "transition payments" when they leave office, and pension rights of up to £30,000 for a single five-year term, MEPs can claim an enormous £363,000 a year in expenses – not a penny of which requires a receipt.

Jens Holm, one MEP campaigning to reform the system, tells how he naively went to present receipts for his travel expenses when he first arrived in 

Brussels, only to be told off by the European parliament's secretariat, who said: "We're not interested in your receipts"

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/may/27/expenses-meps-european-parliament

 

No wonder so many of our politicians wanted to jump onto that particular gravy train, which happily is now coming off the rails.

 

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Lynne
Lynne
09 Dec 2017 17:44

So makes you wonder just how much more the rhubarb and custard brigade have made/are making from the EU and which none of us know about (except them of course). 

Lynne
Lynne
09 Dec 2017 18:04

Jean-Claude Juncker is the Big Bad Wolf  

majorp
majorp
09 Dec 2017 18:35

Michael Gove: The British people can change Theresa May's Brexit deal at the next election

In a thinly-veiled swipe at the agreement the Prime Minister reached with Brussels following lengthy negotiations, the leading Brexiteer said voters remained "in control" of the process.

Lynne
Lynne
09 Dec 2017 20:22

As I said above, Govey's pantomime role is as King Rat.

Diana Mond
Diana Mond
10 Dec 2017 10:06
Retweeted rufus jones (@rufusjones1):
 
It is notoriously difficult to sum up Brexit in a single metaphor, but I must say I do respond to the image of David Davis at the funfair, putting his last 50p into a Crane Grab Machine full of turds.
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Lynne
Lynne
10 Dec 2017 10:10

laugh

 

Do they sell fudge at funfairs?

Lynne
Lynne
10 Dec 2017 12:36

And how long before this first stage agreement turns out to be a bit er.............. Wishee Washee? 

leatash
leatash
10 Dec 2017 12:45

My question when are the remainers going to get over losing or are they going tp winge for the next 10 or 20 years. My theory about negotiations the EU are making life so difficult for the goverment in the hope a general election will be called and a Labour goverment will overturn the brexit vote and keep us in they dont want us out and will play dirty to acheive that.

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Diana Mond
Diana Mond
10 Dec 2017 13:20

This mess is the work of the Tory party, not those who would rather we remain in the EU. Anyway, weren’t people of a certain ilk whinging about being in the EU for the 40 years since we joined?? 

 

A Labour government, under the leadership of the democratically elected Jeremy Corbyn, would not reverse the decision of those that voted in the referendum. 

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Lynne
Lynne
10 Dec 2017 13:21

Er...excuse me. UKIPPERS/Leavers and fellow travellers whinged for quite some years about our being in the EU.

What short memories some people appear to have.  

 

What's good for the (mother) goose is good for the gander. 

 

 

 

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Lynne
Lynne
10 Dec 2017 14:00

Nominations now open for the role of Pinocchio.

Candidates must be good at telling lies. 

flo
flo
10 Dec 2017 14:02

aren't the current government making it more difficult for themselves than anyone else could.

majorp
majorp
10 Dec 2017 15:23

Tory's will make sure they are ok, even if they lose the battle - rest assured. You must have noticed how many times Mrs May has uttered the words, "for all the nation".

Just like "God save the queen", why can't it be "god save all of us".

Lynne
Lynne
10 Dec 2017 17:15

Would "heaven help us" be an acceptable wording for you Majorp? 

majorp
majorp
10 Dec 2017 21:12

YEP

Lynne
Lynne
13 Dec 2017 10:47

Casting: Latest News

 

Lynne productions is now proud to announce that Brexit Secretary, David Davies, will play Simple Simon.

 

Open auditions for Irish Leprechauns to follow shortly.

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