General Discussion
Warren Rights Grab competition
Dawlish warren website are using a rights grabbing photo competition to fyrnish themselves with free images to use in advertising. The average cost of licensing a image for use in advertising and media is £150 per publication set. The "competition" offers a free meal worth about £30 to the "Winner" only All OTHER entry's can be used for free in media, holiday brochures, newspapers and any thing the organisers see fit. Many photographers will be excited at the opportunity to see there pictures published, however they must also be made aware that professional photography is a source of employment and the they would have to pay the photographer to use the images around £150 each, by giving free images you destroy someone's lively hood and you would not be very pleased if these out of work photographers turned up at your place of work and offered to do your hob for free. In short this competition is a scam to obtain thousands of pounds of image material for free and give the photographers absolutely nothing in return, except a plate of steak and chips to the "lucky winner" BE WARNED
Many thanks for that Mark. I for one, will NOT be entering the comp. PS. What site exactly? There are a few I have just seen and cannot see any comp. Can you provide a link to the site please? Thank you.
Dawlish warren website are using a rights grabbing photo competition to furnish themselves with free images to use in advertising. The average cost of licensing a image for use in advertising and media is £150 per publication set. The "competition" offers a free meal worth about £30 to the "Winner" only All OTHER entry's can be used for free in media, holiday brochures, newspapers and any thing the organisers see fit. Many photographers will be excited at the opportunity to see there pictures published, however they must also be made aware that professional photography is a source of employment and the they would have to pay the photographer to use the images around £150 each, by giving free images you destroy someone's lively hood and you would not be very pleased if these out of work photographers turned up at your place of work and offered to do your job for free. In short this competition is a scam to obtain thousands of pounds of image material for free and give the photographers absolutely nothing in return, except a plate of steak and chips to the "lucky winner" BE WARNED . . Damn Auto spell checker !
http://www.dawlishwarren.info/DawlishWarrenPhotoCompetition.php they should know better ! call them up and ask to use one of their images for free ! hold the phone well away from your ear
http://www.dawlishwarren.info/DawlishWarrenPhotoCompetition.php they should know better ! call them up and ask to use one of their images for free ! hold the phone well away from your ear
The Investigator is on the case and will publish this scam on my Blog, warning photographers about this scam. Many thanks for exposing this Mark.
Due to some emails protesting at their terms, they have added the following into them. "If we use your picture(s) we will be happy to credit it to you and/or your website if you have one.” Ok, its not much, but a step in the right direction. At least they will link to your work.
Worthless, a step in the right direction would be TO PAY rgw going rate for selling peoples work. You can not spend Credits or website links in the pub
@mark. well, at least i emailed them and complained, along with a few of my fellow photographer friends. have you?
I'll do almost anything for a free plate of steak and chips! But Mark is right, this is an opportunity to get something for nothing. There are a lot of firms in the Warren who are members of the site and with the profits they make during the year I am sure they could afford to pay the necessary fees to use photos which have been submitted. After all, they won't give you anything for nothing! So come on Dawlish Warren Tourism Group, if you use photos that are submitted then pay for them, cash not points or free meals. Or perhaps some of the business members could get their own cameras out and take a few pics?
@Taxi Driver. well then, email them and complain about it to them. i have done it, so why not more do it? dont be a typical dawlish person who sits on their arse all day letting someone else sort it out.
In my own personal humble opinion, I see nothing wrong with it. After all its aimed to encourage more visitors, by means of holiday brocures etc, to the area.
"In my own personal humble opinion, I see nothing wrong with it." You would soon see something wrong if they put someone in your job doing it for free. Especially when it sunk in you had no money left.
Well £150 for a few minutes work? Wish I was on that sort of money. Perhaps if those "proffessionals" didnt charge so much, then this might not happen.
You dont get £150 for every piece of work you create, or everyone would buy a camera and be a millionaire, the average photographers earns around minimum wage and works damn hard to get it, with around 5% of work produce selling. With people like this ripping and conning the public, it will be considerable less than that once these people flood the market. they will SELL the Images sent in and give you nothing.
So a proffessional photographer has never used "the man from down the pub" to fix the leaky tap instead of paying a proffesional plumber or "him from across the road" to fix his car instead of taking it to a garage and paying a proffessional mechanic, or "a friend of a friend" to fix his PC instead of using a proffessional IT expert. Its not exactly Hello magazine or Vogue is it. Its Dawlish Warren tourism, photos will be most likely used in a tacky "Welcome to Dawlish Warren" brocure sent to Sun Readers who book the £7.50 holidays.
Comparing using the help of a friend to do a household job shows what little understanding you have of what we are talking about here. I am not going to drill through the wood Mr Woodbine, so I wont bother.
Not just house hold jobs. They can all be used in the work place, there are taps in offices, cars to get to the photo shoots, PCs to store work on. Thus taking away the livelyhoods of fellow professionals. Every one has done it it, it happens in every business in one way or another. If you have never done such a thing in running your business then I take back what I have said and congratulate you, but if you have, you are no different than the ones you complain about.
No not me mate, but I was thinking of sending a happy snappy in to the comp, If I win we can share the steak and chips
Not for me .. Eaten there before, its all cook chill microwave rubbish, swimming in fat, tough as a old boat rope and just as salty . The dessert looked like a peach that had eloped with some ice cream and together committed suicide in a microwave. Even the beer was warm and flat, but at least it came with a free synchronised swimming wasp .
