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ZIGGY
ZIGGY
31 Jul 2017 13:00

I think Dawlish is in need of another car park. Having just driven out of the Barton car park i felt sorry for the people trying to find a parking space.

So if building a play park to encourage people to come to play and shop where are they going to park?

leatash
leatash
31 Jul 2017 13:21

You have to remember we have lost 50% of the parking in the Strand and if TDC get there way with the cycle path we will lose more spaces in Brunswick Place above the bowling green bridge, parking is at a premium in the summer but hey Sptember the 6th will soon be here and things will revert back to normal. Another car park but where would you build it how about a multi storey on the Barton Car Park a long time ago TDC considered it.

flo
flo
01 Aug 2017 09:13

With the increase in population and expanson of Barton Surgery, I think a multi storey at Barton needs to be reconsidered.

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leatash
leatash
01 Aug 2017 13:43

It was considered but there was a considerable amount of opposition especialy from those who live in Brook Street and were would the money come from millions would be required theres enough fuss over a play park on the lawns never mind a 3 or 4 storey car park.

TheObserver
TheObserver
03 Aug 2017 15:10

I don't think Dawlish has enough shopping choices in order for it to even consider having a multistorey car park built within it. Supply Dawlish with some up-market shops then you may stand a chance of needing additional parking. Otherwise is there really a need for it? Yes Car Parks get full in Dawlish, but we don't see the return of the money spent within the parking facilities so why add more?

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JD2017
JD2017
03 Aug 2017 20:27

It might not be what you (or anyone) would call "upmarket", but global chain Subway is coming to Dawlish. It would seem that they have more faith in the state of the town than certain people. 

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leatash
leatash
04 Aug 2017 07:00

Is Subway not a franchise.

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JD2017
JD2017
04 Aug 2017 07:05

Correct. But they only allow franchises to open in places where the business would be viable. And they obviously realise that one would be in Dawlish. 

leatash
leatash
04 Aug 2017 08:26

I dont think thats true Subway do not guarantee a territory and it's up to individuals the franchise to decide, one Subway could open in the Strand and another in Brunswick Place and at the end of the day it's a sandwich shop.

Lynne
Lynne
04 Aug 2017 08:30

@JD2017 - can you tell us how you know about this alleged proposed Subway please?

Ask as the only source of info I can find about all this is your postings on here.   

So, if what you say is true - how do you know about it? 

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Dil
Dil
04 Aug 2017 08:36

I don't know JD2017 but I read it in DevonLive yesterday

Lynne
Lynne
04 Aug 2017 08:52

@Dil - many thanks. i've found it now. Looks like it's a franchise opportunity

https://subwayfranchising.com/en-gb/franchise/opportunities-cornwall-devon-dorset-channel-islands

TheObserver
TheObserver
04 Aug 2017 13:41

Subway would be great, no doubt, we'll lets get a Cafe Nero/Costa/Starbucks, a Wilco and a KFC/MacDonalds, then we might have a town for life.

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leatash
leatash
04 Aug 2017 15:04

I have no objection to Subway they do provide good grub a KFC OR Mac's is ok once a year and if they built them out by Sainsbury's i would have no objections either.

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TheObserver
TheObserver
07 Aug 2017 11:10

Thing is, surely, we want visitors to come to the town and stay in the town. I often use the strands various cafe's for a drink or a bite, but many close very early, which is a great shame. 

majorp
majorp
07 Aug 2017 17:32

 

Car Parking has always been an issue and in reply to ZIGGY

People only have themselves to blame for not having enough parking spaces. Council officers are very shrewed players. They can ignore legislation to suit themselves. It is only when they are found out - the blame games start.

Officers advise members, and most members haven't a clue what officers are advising them. so a nod and a wink lives on. Whilst most members will tell you that they are working for you, that is far from the truth, they have an ulterior motive.

Section 55 (4)(b) Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 will tell you (well it tells me any way) that if there is a demaned for more parking accommodation, then providing more is one of the first things councillors shall consider, but they are not told that.

But here is the but, councillors can ignore secion 55 because there is no one to stand up and challenge decisions made on public transport isses. The reason why councils ignore traffic law is laid down in the same act which allows them to skirt around reqirements. I was always told 'ignorance is no defence'.

The RTRA 1984 is not a revenue-raising or taxing statute and did not authorise the Council to use its powers to charge local residents increased parking charges with the purpose of raising surplus revenue for other transport purposes funded by the General Fund. 

There is more, but I musn't give you too many spoonfuls all at once.

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